Online vape seller has ‘no intention of stopping’ shipments to Australia, despite nationwide ban — ‘We have no intention of stopping just because of one twat in Canberra.’::The New Zealand-based seller issued a notice to its Australian customers that shipments will continue regardless of the government’s vape reform.

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    9 months ago

    Leave vaping alone, but ban those single use vapes with rechargable lithium ion batteries in them. It’s absolutely insane to me the amount of waste from throwing out perfectly good rechargeable batteries after one cycle.

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      9 months ago

      No, do not leave vaping alone. Just because some asshat companiea found a new way to exploit health damage for profit does not mean it should be allowed because freedumb.

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        9 months ago

        Let me consume nicotine in the least harmful method available. You don’t get to dictate what I do with my body. That includes all drugs.

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          9 months ago

          You mean nicotine gum? Or nicotine patches right? Because those are still legal.

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          9 months ago

          Sure, but can we then tax the product for the actual health risk?

          And least damaging? How about gum, or tabs. No popcorn lung involved.

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            Abortion is bad for the fetus’s health. Perhaps we should tax it 1000%. While we are at it let’s tax Soda and Sugar. Fuck it lets tax cosmetic surgery, I mean it is such a waste and so risky.

            If we are going to go down this road of controlling other people’s bodies let’s go all the way then.

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              Sugar is already being taxed, and this will grow. High fructose should be extra taxed yes. Abortion seems out of place in your rabid “muh freedumbs” response.

              There is a responsibility for a government to protect the health of citizens. I can see this (and drugs) being properly regulated. And then people can buy and use as they see fit. But just free sales, no.

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                Well I’m glad you are there to dictate what someone can and can’t do with their body. We only want people to engage in activities if they are state sanctioned.

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                  As an alternative, government regulates all sorts of things. Alcohol, gambling, cigarettes, firearms.

                  The government is the counterweight to corporations abusing people that might not be able to resist and the VERY negative societal impacts this has.

                  The fact you think this is unnecessary makes you very fortunate that you never had to deal with the negative externalities of these companies.

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                I don’t agree with those taxes. People are free to do with their body what they want, provided it’s not harmful to others. This is not the responsibility of the government.

                Providing education so people can make informed decisions about the risks of the behaviors they engage in - now that’s a government (and parental) responsibility.

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                  9 months ago

                  Yeah, same as with vaccination. Your decisions influence a lot of others.

                  Even if the government properly informs people, not everyone is able to make an informed decision.

                  Private companies abusing the system and hurting many people along the way is not something that should be celebrated as freedom. And this is a perfect example of that. Health, the environment everything can be sacrificed in the name of profit.

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                    Vaccines are not a personal freedom just like shitting in the creek behind your house isn’t a personal freedom. Those decisions create public health nightmares. I don’t think people should be allowed to smoke or vape in public where it could affect others, but what people do in their own time is their own business.