• meleecrits@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    This is a death sentence for Tesla. I have a Model 3 that I enjoy despite its shortcomings. One of the deciding factors was the supercharger network. It’s the easiest system I’ve used for charging. It makes all other networks infuriating in comparison.

    A lot of people get Teslas for the ease of charging alone. If the network starts to falter, people will leave the brand even faster than they already are.

    Tesla really needs to vote this idiot out of the CEO position before he kills the company.

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      7 months ago

      Not to mention the charging infrastructure is one of the reasons some people haven’t made the switch yet. Anything holding back charging expansion is a disaster in my view.

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        7 months ago

        I don’t think that’s it at all. The cost of a new car, any new car, is still out of reach for the vast majority of Americans, much less a dedicated daily commuter vehicle (because you need a gas car for long trips). PHEV is an imperfect compromise, but there simply aren’t enough used PHEV models available on the market.

        I bought a car last year, and I really wanted to get something electric, but the car I need just doesn’t exist at the price I can afford. Chargers didn’t factor into it.

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          You say “you need a gas car for long trips”, and “Chargers didn’t factor into it”.

          Isn’t that directly contradicting? Why else do you feel like you need a gas car for long trips if it isn’t related to either not enough chargers or chargers still not being fast enough for you? Chargers absolutely factor into that part of why you didn’t buy electric yet.

          But also, the notion that they can’t do long trips is already pretty outdated. There are very few places left where you would even need to take a detour to take a long trip in an electric car. The only downside is that charging at max speed takes about 3x as long as filling with gas still, and not every charging station is max speed. As that continues to improve, it’ll be less and less of a difference.

          So, funding the R and D department of the charging network, as well as the construction of the charging network, are absolutely fundamental to more people adopting electric as their single vehicle choice. And not as their second vehicle only for one small purpose.

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    7 months ago

    Is that because the automotive industry decided to go with the North American standard for rapid chargers instead of Tesla’s? If so, while heartless, it makes sense from a business standpoint.

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      7 months ago

      ?

      The NACS connector is the Tesla connector. NACS was entirely their doing; Tesla won this format war. So what’s for them to be salty about?

      The only wrinkle is that older Teslas require a reflash to work with the new (or rather old, same as CCS) communication standard that would be used by NACS equipped non-Tesla charging stations.

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    7 months ago

    And herein lies the danger of Billionaires. Who stops them when they want to impose their tyrannical agendas on the vulnerable. Who prevents him from buying an atomic weapon and setting it off for a meme stunt or internet points ?

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      Who prevents him from buying an atomic weapon and setting it off for a meme stunt or internet points ?

      You have to be joking.

      Nearly every military in the world. Countless regulatory agencies. Intelligence agencies the world over. It’s pretty much known that the US made stuxnet to kill one country’s nuclear program. Do you seriously fucking think they wouldn’t stop a single billionaire?

      There’s also the fact that even he’s not that insane, and any other billionaire out there who wouldn’t want the effects of a nuke going off to get in the way of their own shit.

      If you were talking a dirty bomb, that might be within his reach. Buy some mines in third world countries, mine up some material, strap it to a conventional bomb. That’s also many orders of magnitude less severe (while still horrific). Also, most mining rights in areas with worthwhile radioactive material available have already been bought up by other entities with similar financial levels of backing.

      Actual nukes require quite a bit more than just an explosive and some radioactive material to build anyway, and things like nuclear material refinement facilities are quite easily visible from satelite imagery. They also require specialized hardware that is closely monitored. Sure he could pay to reverse engineer and/or get it built. Good luck keeping that secret for as long as it would take.


      The man’s a living embodiment of a chode with a diamond studded piercing. There’s plenty of shit to be upset at him about, or worried about, without getting anywhere close to this absurd. I sincerely hope that you weren’t being serious.

      If you want shock factor, talk about the slave mines his family wealth comes from, and the slave mines where we source lithium from for EV batteries. Talk about the high frequency of using child soldiers as security for said mines, in addition to the child slave labor.

      Talk about the highly likely intentional killing of Twitter by Saudi Arabian government’s investment into Musk as a retaliation for the Arab Spring and as a way to further control rapid information dissemination during crisises.

      There’s real reasons to despise him, going for such extremely ridiculous exaggerations only hurts the point you’re trying to make.

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        7 months ago

        Im making a valid point while you’re trying to tell me what I should be saying instead

        Propagandists always try to control the narrative

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          You are not making a valid argument, as evidenced by your argument being torn to shreds in the comments here.

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          Let me be crystal fucking clear here.

          You were not making a valid point.

          Your hypothetical is so amazingly absurd that I did not fully believe you were being serious until I saw your response.

          I’m still wondering if this isn’t some sort of weird ass false flag attempt to make people who dislike Musk look like absolute raving loonies.

          I tried to give you places to begin looking into things yourself so you (and anyone else as delusional as you) wouldn’t be worried about something so unlikely as to be effectively impossible.

          I’m not doing that work for you, I’ve already had to sit through countless discussions of this shit in my lifetime. Multiple nuclear engineers in the (extended) family, have met members of the regulatory orgs through them, and that’s what my parents wanted me to grow up to be (I fucked off into computers though).

          Beyond that, I tried to give you some stuff against Musk that’s far more rooted in reality than the wildest speculation.


          But I really couldn’t give a shit what you talk about. I just dislike seeing people undermining legitimate points by throwing around absurd exageration. Especially when there’s plenty of legitimate criticisms and concerns out there about Musk.

          Please, do go on about how he’s going to somehow outsmart intelligence agencies that took out an entire country’s nuclear program with a single goddamn computer virus. At this point it’s just entertaining.

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    Crazy. I’ve been a long-term Musk supporter (because of meaningful business targets: EVs and Mars colonization), but these recent events I cannot support. Laying off employees while not at the same time demanding Universal Basic Income on a state level (so that no single corporation is disadvantaged) is a death sentence to the worker population, and that, I cannot support. I’m out.