• helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    This isn’t new at all. Apple has been consistent with long term updates for a while.

    iPhones have been getting at least 5 major annual updates sense the iPhone 4. The average is 6 updates.

    If anything, it gets to a point where the old hardware can barley handle the newer OS.

    This is the equivalent of them promising to be called Apple in 5 years - it changes absolutly nothing.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_version_history

    Edit: thinking about it, this gives them an excuse to reduce the number of years they support phones. Instead of 6-7, can we now expect that to become only 5 years?

    This could be a huge loss disguised as a win

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      6 months ago

      Those updates are easy when you have to release an system update to update the safari browser. Hell, you could call it a major security fix and fix some security issue on an old phone and every fanboy would be like “OMG iPhone 3s got an update.🤤” whereas Google can just ship browser fixes over the app store.

      And version history means jack all when you can just name releases as you please. Google has been doing the same thing last 5-10 years. Emoji mixers, magic cleaner, launcher with google search bar at the bottom, turning a toggle into a big button on nav bar, enabling aren’t major updates. Sure there are underlying changes, but they’re mostly security patches and bugfixes. Android is still a bloated mess that needs ungodly amount of RAM and processing to keep even few apps running reliably in the background.

      And guess where did Google learn this deceptive “long term update support” trend from?

      The only thing they’ll need is to decouple chrome and require a system update, and they could be providing updates for a decade.

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        6 months ago

        Those updates are easy when you have to release a system update to update the safari browser. Hell, you could call it a major security fix and fix some security issue on an old phone and every fanboy would be like “OMG iPhone 3s got an update.🤤” whereas Google can just ship browser fixes over the app store.

        Except that’s not what Apple means when they say they’ll update phones for five years. Security fixes aren’t the same as full iOS versions.

        iOS 17, which came out September 2023, is available for the iPhone XR and XS, which came out in September of 2018. That’s a full OS update with all the non-hardware-based bells and whistles.

        Security patches may very well release for older phones, but not full OS updates. Earlier this year they dropped a security patch for the iPhone 6S, a phone from 2015.

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    6 months ago

    From first supply date.

    I’d be more impressed if the did it from last supply date.

    They still sell the 13, so you’ll only get 3 updates, not 5 with this announcement.

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      6 months ago

      They’ve been doing this, but because others have not been doing this, there is now regulation in this space.

      Apple had to disclose this in writing to be fully compliant with PSTI.

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    6 months ago

    All in all, Apple had to agree to this in writing to be compliant with PSTI. They’ve already been doing this for a long time.

    This is kind of like asking the Fast and Furious franchise to agree, in writing, to talk about family.

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    6 months ago

    my friend has a 20yr old core 2 duo system with the latest updates on windows 10

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      6 months ago

      First of all, you’re implying it runs latest Windows - but Windows 11 shipped a few years ago.

      Second - not really a fair comparison. 18 years ago the iPhone didn’t even exist. And the oldest model (17 years old) had really weak hardware. 4GB of storage, 128MB of RAM, and the CPU was an order of magnitude slower than current spec CPUs (it was also 32 bit - and 64 bit ARM is a completely new architecture - similar to the failed Itanium).

      Even if it was supported, it would be a horrible experience.

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    6 months ago

    Still low, my lineageos phone is going 8 years and is on latest android (and the device wasn’t new when I bought it).

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    Big difference: on android you can stay 6 version behind and you probably find any incompatible app during real life use. Browser and framework (google play services) continue to get updates

    On iOS once your device stops getting updates it becomes ewaste as almost every app becomes incompatible after 1-2 years . Browser stops getting updates at all so your browsing experience will degrade fast

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      6 months ago

      That’s true, but this happens because usually 95% of people are always on the latest version a few months after the new version was released. For developers, it’s really not worth supporting older versions when the overwhelming majority of users already upgraded.

      Still, many large companies still support older versions when the user base is very huge. I work for a huge bank and we had to support all the way to iOS 10. Only this year it was recently upped to iOS 14, which now covers probably 99.99% of users.

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      6 months ago

      Android and iOS developer here. Web and app.

      I have so many damn phones floating around my damn desk. I have near old iOS devices that are still solid for web browsing.

      The bigger problem is that mobile processors saw MASSIVE performance changes over the past decade, and apps that are developed for new silicon run like shit on old ass hardware.

      In other words, performance with new apps is the pain I feel first. Browsing the web on an old iPhone 6 is generally fine.