• toastus@feddit.de
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    And that makes it okay for humans to abuse them in even more brutal ways?

    Or what are you saying?

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      Wow, no.

      But what it does do is point out that PETA is full of shit and you shouldn’t listen to the organisation that runs kill shelters becaus they think you shouldn’t have pets.

      The fuckers have actually STOLEN PETS and “euthanized” them inside of a day, when the animal was in good health and in a loving home.

      FUCK PETA, they are a bunch of animal killers.

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        FUCK PETA, they are a bunch of animal killers.

        I assume that you are vegan and dont contribute to the industrialised mass killing of sentient beings in any way? Otherwise you seem quite hypocritical.

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          For a group of people saying thay they are for the ethical treatment of animals, they kill a whole lot of them unnecessarily.

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            PETA takes any animal. So those no kill shelters that you probably love so much have to get rid of animals and send the animal to the next shelter in the chain. Eventually, that could mean PETA shelters. Guess what that means? The most aggressive animals, the most disabled animals, the most sick animals, the most expensive to take care of animals, and otherwise those least desired by those looking for companion animals, are likely to end up at a PETA shelter. They don’t have the funding, the staff, or the safety protocols in place to deal with the never ending supply that breeding creates. If you don’t want PETA to kill animals, which they don’t want to do, encourage the ban on animal breeding so there are fewer of these cases. Also stop pretending that your local no kill shelter is separate from that process. They just offload the bad press to PETA. Do not buy animals. Rescue & adopt.

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        Lmao this bullshit again. PETA only euthanizes animals that are suffering and beyond saving. They accept animals that are rejected by those “no-kill” shelters that are more concerned with how their statistics look than helping suffering animals, which sometimes means euthanizing. The whole “PETA hates animals” thing is just another way for people to justify their own behaviour against animals. Do you honestly believe PETA is some kind of evil organisation that’s out to kill animals out of pure spite?

        Edit: see here

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          This person is 100% correct. I’m not a fan of PETA, but think before you downvote.

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      That one whooshed right over your head eh? He’s saying that chickens families are not, in fact, the same as human families. They don’t form a family unit with bonds above those of other chickens. It’s mostly because they’re chickens…and not humans and it was a dumb comparison for PETA to try and make.

      Pointing out how chickens relate to other chickens does not mean it’s an endorsement for cruelty…you stretched big time for that one.

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        I really really want you to explain to me how in your head what I wrote made you think I didn’t get this absolutely obvious thing that OP stated lol.

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          Well, either you’re really bad at expressing yourself through online comments…or you forgot to add a /s to the end of your comment. Certainly seems to me like you’re still a bit confused.

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          So, do you think that there are ethical and non abusive animal husbandry methods for raising livestick?

          Do you think there are ethical ways to slaughter livestock?

          You seem to be making this a false binary.

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            I make this practically correct binary because in practice more than 90% of all livestock is kept in inhumane conditions.

            The theoretical possibility of an ethical way to raise and slaughter livestock is irrelevant to my argument and in essence a straw man because I don’t argue against a hypothetically well raised and humanely slaughtered livestock but against the fact that in reality livestock is mistreated, tortured and killed in horrible conditions in most of all cases.

            If I go to the supermarket and buy meat I am all but guaranteed that the animal has suffered.

            If you raise your own livestock out on open field and treat it right I don’t have a problem with you. But you don’t, do you?

            And even if you just are a carnivore I don’t have any problem with you, you can live your life how you see fit. I don’t really care.

            But if you go to the internet to shit on people that care about animals to feel better about the fact that you don’t, I think you are a dick.
            Not saying that applies to you specifically, but I have seen examples in this thread.

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                Possible.
                The majority of people I know in person would disagree I hope.

                I agree that I am pretty combative here, but I am also tired of the ever same old and disproven arguments. I am not even vegan myself, but ridiculing people for trying to save animals is just low imho so I kinda don’t care if I am an asshole to people that do it.