you could argue bandwidth but that is so intangible compared to any kind of physical theft.

Have you ever paid hosting fees? Digital != Intangible.

Its up to you to decide what kinds of theft you’re ok with. I definitely pirate things, but I don’t lie about it and say it’s not theft. I just accept that sometimes I’m the bad guy.

This abstraction doesn’t make a ton of sense to me. Of course you’re in charge of your computer, but just because you’re free to choose a certain option, doesn’t make it moral, or legal. Using a companys service and making a special effort to withhold payment then saying “it’s not theft, they’re totally cool with it” is absurd. Why would they be cool with that?

Lmao.

I’m totally fine with murdering animals for utility/convenience.

🎶 It’s the circle of life 🎶

If YouTube started banning Adblockers they’d end up with really bad PR and an arms race, neither of which would sound terribly appealing (although I predict this is a policy change in the works already).

The problem with account bans is that, unlike steam accounts, YouTube accounts have no value associated with them. You ban one and another one pops up.

If I went to the drive through, and they handed me a coffee and said “that’ll be $3. Would you like to pay with cash? or points?” And I just drove off, they wouldn’t chase me over it, but it is absolutely still theft.

Listen, if you want to pirate content, go ahead, I can’t stop you, and it’s not like I haven’t done it myself, but don’t lie to yourself.

I imagine if it doesn’t make sense to you already, I won’t be able to help you understand, but here goes anyway.

A company pays a lot of money to have a service developed and hosted, then offers a paid teir, and an ad supported teir. If you neither pay, nor watch ads, yet still use the service, then the company is incurring fees due to your usage while receiving no revenue for providing the service.

Like, YouTube videos are great. Practically a utility at this point. However YouTube, the platform, is a company not a charity; if you cost them money, while providing $0 revenue, you’re stealing their money.

Personally I don’t think theft is justified outside extreme desparation (stealing food, basically), and given that YouTube gives you an option that does not require giving them money I find it hard to justify stealing bandwidth.

You’ve found quite the hornets nest, it seems.

I pay for premium because YouTube does video delivery better than anyone else in the world, and it’s not free for them to provide. Lots of things to hate about YouTube/Alphabet, but theft is a corrupt way of expressing discontentment.

Also, if I pay for premium, then content creators get paid, and I don’t have to shell out for merch to not feel like a terrible person.