• eric@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Wtf? They honestly shouldn’t be able to call a software update a “recall.” They’re literally two different things. Is this just a Tesla thing, or is this some sort of new trend?

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          Because tesla has to comply with the regulations just like every other manufacturer, and that includes notification of recall issues and remedies. The use of the term ‘recall’ is of course outdated, but that is irrelevant. How the manufacturer remedies the defect has always been up to the manufacturer, as long as they comply with the regulatory process, most of which is simply documentation, like issuing recall notices.

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          Thanks. That sure seems like a lazy and wrongheaded move to call an update a recall, but I don’t know why I expected more competent logic from the US govt.

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            actionable defects are ‘recalls’. How they are remedied is irrelevant.

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              1 year ago

              That’s not really an accurate definition. A recall is a public call to RETURN a product that is defective. There is nothing being returned with a software update.

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                It is the terminology required by the NHTSA regulations. Those regulations were obviously written before software updates were relevant to automobile components. The public documentation of defects are ‘recall notices’ by regulation.

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                  1 year ago

                  Yeah, I get that part, but it doesnt change the fact that using the word for a mandated update is lazy and wrongheaded on the part of the NHTSA. Rather than use a different and more correct word, they are just shoehorning it in and leading people to the wrong conclusion.

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      1 year ago

      tesla has had numerous hardware recalls as well. The whole industry does, it’s absolutely normal. It is in fact the point of the recall system. Identify and repair defects before they cause massive harm.

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      I wouldn’t differentiate between OTA and bring-to-the-shop recalls, I’d draw the line between defect repair and threat to life and safety. If the OTA update keeps the car from killing the passengers or pedestrians, It’s probably not a good idea to minimize the flaw through semantics.

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        It’s mostly about whether the problem gets fixed before I know it’s there. If I have to go in to a service center to fix the problem, it is a far greater inconvenience and a longer time it is a risk before I get a day off work to take care of it… which increases the chance I have an issue.

        Software patches are still fixes, but they aren’t recalling any parts or vehicles, they are fixing them instantly and remotely.

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    Or perhaps tesla could deliver a functional ‘full self driving’ system that drives itself fully?

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    further encourage the driver to adhere to their continuous driving responsibility,

    I’d say, it isn’t exactly encouragement what these drivers need most :-)