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What we need to do is normalize violence against Nazis again.
You forgot to add the corporations raining down money on both sides to keep things this way.
We all need to do what we can do to fight back including civil disobedience. One of the most powerful but unfortunately forgotten ways of fighting back is protesting. The powers at be don’t like it because they have no control of the information. Reddit perm banned me for being too outspoken. So here I am. Please people rise up and get loud!!!
Absolutely. Republicans aren’t afraid of losing their seats with 5M people in the streets nationwide. We need a lot more of us to scare them into dissent.
Ever since Trump won I sloooooow walllllkkk everything at work. It’s been great for my mental health. I can’t give up my job because I have a family to feed. But I can slow down machinery at work and cause lots of inefficiencies. Fuck you, trump voting industry.
If you assume that Republicans will ever compromise, it makes an ass out of you and me.
imagine functioning as controlled opposition while not even being controlled opposition. those desk jobs are way too fucking nice
Are people not paying attention, or just love to blame Democrats? They’re not asking for compromises. They’re making clear demands and getting voted down. Most recently, the House Judiciary Committee voted on the deportations. Democrats insisted that citizens be exempt from deportation. Republicans voted them down. This is what happens when you have full Republican control of our government. Keep bitching about the minority party fighting for you, and this is here to stay.
You want fresh blood in the seats? Me too. Vote in the congressional midterm primaries next year. We all have a say in who sits in those seats, but only the elderly retirees show up for the vote.
You talk about blaming people but that’s a waste of our time. We actually want to make things better in the future, and to do that you need to look at how we got to where we are, and it’s clear that we got here by corporate Democrats caving to Republican and corporate interests. That’s been going on for the past 30 years. Of course the Republicans are more to blame than the democrats, but if you can’t recognize that the old Washington Democrats are largely worthless sandbags, then there’s no way you’re going to make things better in the future. They simply lack the values that we have, they don’t actually want to make life better for the average American, and that’s never going to change.
If you want to ask what more the Democrats can do, I think there are a ton of good examples. They can obstruct the process in so many ways, they can have independent press conferences, they can generate a ton of PR by creating videos for Facebook and YouTube and TikTok. They can go visit prisoners held in Central America. Just go look at what the active newer generation of Democrats are doing, go look at what Bernie Sanders does, and ask yourself why we don’t have hundreds of people doing that every day. Quite simply, we don’t see that in large numbers because most of those people have s***** values. Most of them are out to protect their own power and their own seat and that’s it.
The Democrats had the power that Republicans have now only for two years in the last 30. The 111th Congress was the most productive Congress since the 89th. They’re not all good. Far from it. That’s what primaries are for. If people actually showed up and voted, we wouldn’t be here at all.
In 2021, President Joe Biden issued 42 executive orders in the first 100 days of his presidency, more than any other president since Harry Truman. However, in 2025, Donald Trump became the president to issue the most executive orders in his first 100 days with 143, surpassing Franklin Roosevelt’s 99.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we had another FDR? A real firebrand, you know. Someone who actually wants to do something and isn’t just filling a seat.
They just love to blame the democrats
If republicans can do it as the minority. There’s no reason democrats can’t. McConnell was great at it. Just copy his playbook.
McConnell uses the filibuster, which the Senate could use to stop bills if any of these were bills passed in Congress. Unfortunately the only power they have against Trump’s executive orders is forcing a 15-day vote, which they’ve repeatedly done, while helping the ACLU bring these cases to the courts.
And they’ve been sitting on their hands for years even when they did have power. They routinely allow this shit to happen and it’s a little late to say them asking if maybe US citizens could be exempt shows how great they really are. Like, they should be demanding that any deportation needs far better scrutiny, and that would right there take care of the citizen part while also protecting so many others. It’s basically the meme we’re commenting on!
They aren’t protecting the US from shit, and it fucking shows. Your country is bad and you should feel bad, not be making excuses and complaining about Democrats not getting respect for unsuccessfully doing the bare minimum and then saying “guess that’s that.”
The only time in the last 30 years that Democrats had the same control that Republicans have now, was the 111th Congress. It was considered the most productive Congress since the 89th Congress.
Joe Biden took office directly after J6, allowed Garland to pull pud for four years, then got the biggest fucking stick an American president has ever gotten from the SC, and handed it to Trump.
I feel the Dems can take some blame.
Oh they’re far from ideal. They’re also far from the Republicans. Actively voting in congressional primaries is how we can make them into the opposition party we want.
To vote in a primary election, I would have to join one of the parties holding primaries. I would never join a party that supports fascism and genocide, which means no Democratic party and no Republican party. Joining one of those two is no different than signing up for the Nazi party or the KKK. I would never want to be associated with either party. If I ever join a party it will be the Green party.
You could use it to vote for Democrats not funded by AIPAC in the primaries.
I think you misunderstand. The majority of politicians in both parties fully support MAGA and Israel, though the Democrats perform a lot of theater about not liking MAGA while they vote in favor of MAGA every chance they get. The point is, before I would even consider joining the Democratic party, the party would have to abandon MAGA and AIPAC as a part of their platform. They would have to kick people out of the party for voting with Trump or taking money from AIPAC. Then I might join them.
Democrats should have demanded the removal of most of the republican party from office via the 14th amendment. Refuse to cooperate with this illegitimate government.
So what about 2021 - 2022, when the Dems had the Senate, the House and the Presidency? Where was the push to codify Roe v Wade? Why didn’t they put Trump in prison, pending trial? There were dozens of things they could have done when they had power. The don’t want to do any of the things they SAY they want to do. They want to ask for campaign donations to fight the MAGAs but they don’t actually want to fight. They’re scammers.
Voting isn’t enough, a lot of us are going to have to start volunteering for Bernie Sanders and the DNC. Our Youth and the nonpartisans are lost and without direction moreso than previous generations.
There will never be enough fresh blood.
Even if the democrats were all progressives and had 100% of the entire government things are too fucked to be fixed before the collapse.
Also, I vote in every primary and they always lose. Turns out we’re just a conservative country.
Only 22% of the nation voted for Trump. Many of them already regret their votes. Trump won on the apathy of the majority. Defeatism is simply fuel for that fire.
They won because the Biden admin was a dumpster fire.
How do you describe this administration?
It’s certainly off to an authoritarian start with chaotic economic impacts. My politics are extremely anti-authoritarian so I’m not at all happy. I don’t care as much about the stock market, I have zero investments. I do care about wages and the job market. But it’s pretty early to really judge his term. I’d guess he’ll lose his Senate majority in the midterms, maybe the House too. But what really matters is what people think 3.5 years in when they’re looking at the next election. I’m actually in Ohio so I’ve had my eye on Vance for longer than most, and I don’t like him at all. Will it be a dumpster fire then? Likely. That’s where the whole world seems to be going anyway. But I can’t predict the future.
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Well then he’s gonna win again because most people are apathetic and this country is doomed.
Serves me right for trying to do the right thing.
Spreading apathy through pessimistic defeatism is the right thing? In that case, I’d rather be wrong.
We got here through division and disengagement. Only unity and action will get us out.
I’ve been engaged for 25 years and we still got here anyway.
Do you think fighting evil is an overnight thing?
You think a constant stream of pessimism is engaging others? C’mon. You know what you’re doing.
I have yet to see evidence to the contrary.
The alternative is me drinking or shouting at traffic at it whizzes by.
Convince me there is literally any hope at all and I might stop.
Or just block me. I don’t care anymore.
Your name is “Doomergod”. You’re just spewing doom for lols.
What a jerk.I wish this was for the lols but I’m legitimately hopeless. I keep looking for an argument that this hopelessness isn’t accurate but I just get the same platitudes.
I would argue total hopelessness is inaccurate because things can change in ways we don’t anticipate. The US will collapse as all empires have, and the world will become a better place, but it will be a rough transition and things will get extra fucked as climate change worsens. Many more people are working to make things better for each other than there are people working to fuck us over, they are just better organized right now.
But anyway the level of hope you feel is more likely to be dictated by whatever material reality you are experiencing. If you are actually looking for a logical argument against hopelessness in an effort to reduce it there are better ways.
Many more people are working to make things better for each other than there are people working to fuck us over, they are just better organized right now.
This is what it has been my entire life. Since 2001 the world has been on a cyclical descent into ruin, missing every chance it had to do something, failing at ever call to action.
My personal reality is pretty awesome, though. I just want to keep them safe from the rest of the species as it descends into barbarism.
Not shown: the people who hate the left side of this photo while yelling at the right side and not doing much else.
Atleast the elephant has his side doing whatever he wants. The donkey is stuck fighting a battle with no support.
Now yall go ahead and downvote since that’s the full extent of your power
The Donkey could refuse to participate, rather than licking the elephant’s boots.
Yup! That’ll get them more support from the people who already say they don’t do anything!
Doing nothing is sometimes a big help. Many things in Congress cannot move forward without quorum. If Democrats don’t show up for those things that require quorum, MAGA can’t move their agenda forward. Democrats don’t do nothing, they vote with MAGA to take away our rights.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t
I know Republicans won’t listen to me.
I assume Democrats might.
After all, I vote in all their primaries.
Or does that mean they don’t have to care because who the hell else am I going to vote for in the general?
I was just ranting about all the independents that would rather vote 3rd party or not vote at all because “the democrats are just as bad/lazy and don’t get anything done” crowd
Every time the democrats have power they use it to try to help out to most common people, yet it’s all brushed under the rug all the same because it’s not normally headlining news.
The democrats try.
Republicans come into office with a 130+ page manifesto and the party in lock step.
Hell, the Democratic senate whip didn’t even know someone was going to be absent and they lost a fucking lay-up vote.
My problem isn’t that the democrats try. It’s that they fail so goddamn always.
And that wraps back around to my original rant. Republicans can do anything and have full support from thier party. One wrong move and a democrat loses most of their followers.
Alternatively: Democrats don’t have to follow the party line to still be considered Democrats.
Fetterman.
Manchin.
Sinema.
Lieberman.
The feckless party lets them sabotage important legislation and does absolutely nothing because “they’re the best we can do.”
Meanwhile any Republican who doesn’t like Trump is threatened until they either lose their primary or resign out of fear for their personal safety.
Literally no democrat thinks theyre actually democrats though?
Go to any thread and you’ll have people saying they’re traitors and a disgrace to the party
Edit: i literally see all the time how Fetterman was a democrat and it’s funny how he turned right leaning after he had his medical problems. Brain damage = republican mindset
All of them were registered Democrats, won the party primaries, won the election, and caucused with the party in the Senate.
Fetterman still has the D next to his name.
Let’s talk it out!
