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      No. But focusing on supporting one single app instead of the platform is not sustainable for the platform. This meme is just a reminder to support the platform as well.

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        I haven’t seen a single call to action to donate to Lemmy other than the static sidebar on desktop. Something like that would be far more helpful than complaining about previous Sync users continuing to donate to Sync. Nothing is being taken from Lemmy, Sync already had a big user base and is bringing many of them over here thanks to the app. Let’s call to action to them to donate to instances instead of complaining.

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          My opinion is that what matters is how much money each part of the network receives.

          For example, instances tend to be transparent about their funding. And we can see that some of them are just months away of being out of cash. Meanwhile, we see people subscribing(!) to a very expensive app that charges $20 to remove ads (and tracking and data collecting) otherwise.

          I think is okay to keep people aware of these things. Getting defensive about it is just a waste of energy. For both sides.

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        Would you have ever posted something like this is sync didn’t come out? Why didn’t you post something like this before sync came out?

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        I agree with you. It’s not to attack sync users, it’s just to remind them that there’s an entire ecosystem dependent on donations

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    Oh no my $20 for a lifetime purchase of removing ads from an app I’ve enjoyed using for like a decade. 🥱

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      I think the point of the post is ain’t nobody donating $20 to the Lemmy platform or host or other apps

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        This meme implies that Sync is taking all the donations though. The people donating to Sync didn’t stop donating to Lemmy to do so

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          Yea this is the thing I keep saying. Who cares about if you’re paying $20 for an app if that’s what you want to do. Just remember to help out the instances who are running things to make that app work. I think a lot of people realize this and that’s great, but I’m sure some people also don’t. So, instead of circlejerking about Sync being $20, it would have been better for make one or two posts days ago with that reminder and leave it be. Instead, we see the circlejerk continuing days later.

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        My instance shut down donos because they were bringing in way more than they needed and are sitting on years of server costs at current usage. I was donating when they were open, though.

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        I’m signed up the patreon for mine, they’re gonna get more than $20 over time

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        A new platform like Lemmy needs to establish trust and reliability for a certain time period before it can expect people to give back something. Something that the Sync developer has established already for a decade now.

        Assuming that Lemmy continues to flourish well, I will be perfectly happy to donate to Lemmy, in fact I’m quite sure that in the long run I’ll donate a lot more to Lemmy than the one time purchase cost of Sync.

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        My instance doesn’t take donations at the moment. I’ll definitely contribute once there’s something.

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        I mean, take that up with Reddit. Hopefully, lemmy doesn’t somehow stop people from using apps.

        Besides I’m happy to pay for the development costs of him porting the entire thing to use lemmy instead super fast, whilst being really responsive to any issues and questions. Of the 5 apps on my phone, sync feels the best to me so I’m cool supporting it.

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    I saw an earlier post that showed Lemmy’s recent rapid growth followed by a plateau and then slight decline. My feeling is that there is a very LOUD minority of Lemmy users that are trying to act as self-anointed gatekeepers and they’re bringing the platform down as a direct consequence. It makes the platform look petty and small to new and existing users alike. If the top posts are continually about shaming other users then this platform isn’t going to last. Let’s focus on building communities and having interesting conversations rather than one upping each other.

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            Right, so it’s free. With ads. Ads that currently dont work, and even if they did, i still haven’t paid for sync, so its free for me.

            Also, why do you care if people are using sync or paying for it. How does that affect you personally?

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              Right, so it’s free. With ads.

              yeah its not free XD you have to look at ads which you DONT have to do with regular lemmy.

              Also, why do you care if people are using sync or paying for it. How does that affect you personally?

              it doesnt, why do you ask? i was just correcting the user saying its “free” which is not under any pov. not in price because of ads, not in freedom because it sucks.

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                TIL that looking at ads, even without money leaving my bank account, isn’t free. These marketing people are wizards /s

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                  I think it’s very valid to say a service isn’t free if it makes you the product by forcibly showing you ads. This is especially true when your data is being collected and shared with advertisers.

                  Time is more valuable than money, and I don’t like spending time on ads. That’s just my two cents, though.

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                you have to look at ads

                Your mind is gonna be blown when you learn that you can block ads system-wide on android…

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        It literally is. All premium options are a choice.

        Ad removal lifetime is $20, Ultra (which brings extra features) is subscription based and a little more expensive.

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      Well you see, it’s important to aggressively gatekeep anything that people start to use and enjoy.

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      The people who are actually angry tend to be FOSS advocates. I think they were assuming Sync would have a FOSS type option for users, and were surprised that wasn’t the case.

      The rest of us just think it’s funny.

      I’m a sync user, btw

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      It’s just a meme because when Sync launched it was all over everyone’s feeds. I don’t think as many folks are as angry about it as it seems but it’s definitely a good topic for meta memes.

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        Im just happy for the influx of posts commenta and votes since sync launched.

        Before it was a good day if a post got 50 upvotes Now its common to see 200+ and theres a ton more comments.

        Its improved the experience in my opinion.

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    It’s more like one dev made the best user experience on lemmy, so people give him money. At least that’s the case for me.

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      I think the issue is sync users cost instances money but does not pay those instances.

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        I mean isn’t that true for literally every user that doesn’t pay? I’m not sure why we are mad at Sync users when we don’t even have a strong call to action to donate to instances.

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        You think Sync users don’t also donate? I paid for sync and donated to Lemmy’s development. Considering donating to my 2 main instances as well.

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        That’s literally Reddit’s argument against third party apps, the reason a good chunk of Lemmy users left reddit is they disagree with that approach…

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        But it’s fine if I cost an app dev their time and instances money and give nothing to no one? Genuine question because I don’t understand all the sync hate.

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    Christ, let me use my favorite app in peace instead of going “tsk tsk” and whinging about it when no one’s stopping you from using other apps.

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      Like this is somehow the fault of sync’s dev. Go ahead folks, the donate to lemmy button is at the top of the page, go ahead and click on it if your morals are so true.

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        Honestly. This isn’t some centralized platform. Donating at least some of the profits to the people making the app possible seems fitting. While I don’t agree with the API pricing of Reddit, I think it’s fitting that it should cost something at least, if not only to cover wage for the people working on the API

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    Willing to bet the lemmy platform is more likely to get support from the type of person that would also pay for an app like sync than it is to get money from people that like to grandstand like OP.

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      I’ve donated to Lemmy, Beehaw, and Mastodon and came here because Reddit killed Sync. Lemmy is full of gatekeepers and it’s bringing the platform down. Half the posts are whining about reddit and the other half are whining because someone doesn’t adhere to the perfect open source ethos and shun anything not completely free. It’s getting tiring. No wonder Lemmy’s active user count is decreasing.

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        I’m thinking the sync app will entice enough people with… differing views that the in-place gatekeeping will lose its bite.

        I appreciate the FOSS ecosystem, but the people around here seem to think that you should never be able to sustain a living from writing software. Like I should just go back to construction and only write code on the side.

        That attitude can kiss my ass.

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        Haven’t paid for any clients yet.

        I’m a developer and it hits close to home when people try to tell you that your skills should never sustain your family.