Wanted to know if there are any other android apps with features like telegram such as sending ,recieving big files creating channels etc. Using a bot or channel in telegram to pirate movies and series are infinitely easier than torrenting . But as telegram is not fully open source and requires a phone number to create an account i am looking to see if there are any better alternatives which aldready does have a piracy ring like telegram . If you know any share . I am asking this here because i think it is the right sub and i can’t find an alternative anywhere on the web . If it isn’t the sub for this i will delete the post if you request so in the comments.

EDIT : It seems everyone missed my questions point i don’t want a privacy focused app like telegram to chat i want a app that is privacy focused but can also help me pirate media .

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      I am interested. Could you point me to a good tutorial to get started with IRC? I think I used some IRC sites before but they felt more like chatrooms

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      Turns out i was wrong and IRC works almost like telegram (atleast a lemming told me (if that is what we are calling ourselves))so can anyone tell me some basics like is goguma agood client ? Which channels to follow etc

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    SimpleX has the best privacy, because of removing metadata.

    Signal comes close, and has many more users. Probably some of your friends already use it.

    If you want something similar to Telegram/Discord/Slack, then Element (Matrix) is what you’re looking for.

    All of the above are E2EE.

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    Simplex.chat is promising, with great privacy/anonymity concepts at its core:

    • no identifyer like a phone# or an email address needed
    • little to no metadata transiting by the server
    • identity management (“incognito” identities generated in one click when joining a group for instance, management of several identities), all database/client-side.
    • works with any server, through tor by default. different servers used to send/receive messages.
    • android/ios/linux-tui/linux-desktop/macos/windows versions available
    • in Haskell, so no node/electron shtf#ckery (just a different shtf#ckery… ;)) )
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    While I agree with your and a more open/private telegram would be great the thing is that the current alternatives, Signal, Matrix, whatever are simply subpar alternatives when it comes to the clients. We can say a lot about telegram’s privacy but the true is that all their native mobile and desktop clients outperform everything else out there. (I wonder why a native app would outperform react garbage :P).

    The only think that might be private yet as performant as Telegram might be some kind of XMPP but the issue with that is that mobile clients suck.

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      I don’t think matrix have piracy groups but yes in terms of privacy it’s the best (ok maybe not the best and i should have put some reaserch into it my bad guys . i don’t use it though)

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        No, Matrix isn’t the best in terms of privacy. It is a metadata disaster and Telegram clients are still more performant.

        Matrix’s E2EE does not, however, encrypt everything. The following information is not encrypted: Message senders, Session/device IDs, Message timestamps, Room members (join/leave/invite events), Message edit events, Message reactions, Read receipts, Nicknames, Profile pictures

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          Lol from telegram my friends won’t move from instagram to telegram only a few of them are available in telegram that too rarely. I am the only one not on insta in our friends group and everyone aldready thinks i am tinfoil hat guy if i tell them about frediverse and the problems with using instagram they will think i am going nuts . I just call them if i want to talk nowadays .

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        I’ve seen and heard of a few. Thing is when you join them you’ll only get access to newer stuff there, the E2EE makes past messages unreadable if you haven’t been there for a while. It’s not like on Telegram where you get Room history access.

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    As far as I know Telegram is the only one with piracy-oriented channels. Maybe we could start one on Signal

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    Signal is the best, honestly the tech is unbeatable. If you don’t want to use a phone number, then Session is similar albeit with less robust encryption protocols.

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    Op regarding your edit, your title says privacy open source and security , it says nothing about for piracy. I’m aware we’re on a piracy community, but that’s not what your title said.