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    6 months ago

    Why would we believe the promises of the ones who ruined the primary utility of their core product in the first place, and convinced or blackmailed the rest of the internet to take part in the ruination ? An advertising corporation will tell us to put cyanide on our pizza if it makes them an extra buck this quarter, and google is worse than that. Profit despite the social costs is doing no evil /s

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        6 months ago

        That was removed as their motto in 2015, following a restructuring of Google as a subsidiary of Alphabet.

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          They changed it to “Do the right thing” which literally makes it less original but more importantly, more pliable, “do the right thing… for ‘google’.”

          Im shure the CEO is “doing the right thing… for his wallet”

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    AI is the new scam after crypto, nft, etc. The technology isn’t to blame itself. It can have some useful case for sure.

    The real issue is the Market™, the belief in infinite growth. We arrived at the point of no return, where infinite growth is impossible. Humans like to challenge impossible. They will try to find whatever is possible to tackle the impossible. In our case, humans try to create growth artificially with crypto, nft, ai, and all the others. Because, it’s the only way to have a minimalist growth for the shareholders and investors. Billions if not trillions were invested in Google and the others AI companies to milk the last drop for some dividend. Short term dividends should have wrote.

    These bad search results are not to serve the general interest. It’s here to serve these investments and return the last profit possible of the dogma of infinity in a finite world. It does indicate how bad the situation became for the economy. They are the cracks leaking the end of an era. They are symptomatic.

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      It sounds… impossible to defeat this darker side of human nature, in order to grow into a mature species worthy of restoring and responsibly maintaining this garden planet.

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        It sounds… impossible to defeat this darker side of human nature

        Capitalist ideology is so hardwired into most of us that it seems easier to accept the end of the world than the end of capitalism itself

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        I think most humans aren’t like that, it’s just that the ones that are have managed to structure society to reward their behavior. We need to get these vile, greed driven ghouls, out of positions of power to get anywhere.

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            Yeah. Like the old adage of whoever seeks power is least deserving of it. It’s a difficult thing to combat.

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          Lots of humans even with good academia are followers. They follow the mass. It’s not idiotic. If the group does this, it should not be bad or present a risk. It’s quite rational. If people eat apples, it’s safe and I can eat them too.

          They use a similar reflexion with our socio-economical system. They follow.

          It depends on whom we follow. Here, sociopathy plays a role. They are often more prompt to embrace power and favor selfishness.

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      Yup. I think this is what always happens when the smart people leave a company and the only people left are “the line must always go up” business idiots who don’t understand what they have or how it works.

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    6 months ago

    … aren’t representative of most people’s experiences.

    Every AI “answer” I’ve gotten from Google is factually incorrect, often ludicrously so.

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      First I was surprised they rolled it out already, then of how bad it was. I knew of Google’s AI blunders from their faked reveals but I didn’t think they‘d actually roll them out in this state. They really just want to turn the internet into the next TV where you don‘t really get to choose when you get to see what exactly and they‘re willing to crash and burn themselves by doing so if they must. Insanity.

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      Well its non toxic so its clearly edible, maybe, so fucksmith could have a valid point. I can not wait untill someone tries out the glue on pizza recipe!

      Glue isnt toxic, but is it flammable?

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      Tbf organic culinary glue is very much a thing. But with pizza I have no idea why, it’s mostly used in fancy Michelin gastronomy to keep complex, small dishes together.

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    They’re trying to compete with open AI which they shouldn’t be… They’re a marketing firm with a search engine.

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      Maybe the problem is a lot of their marketing relies on the dominance of their search engine (ie sponsored search results, and ads based on user searches, as well as tracking user web usage via their search click throughs and other cookies). If open ai’s products become the go to for questions and basic searches, they will eventually be able to use that dominance to include marketing results in their answers. I think this threat is why they want to try to compete with them to be able to offer an alternative. Because it doesn’t actually have to be better than chat gpt. It just has to be similar enough for people to continue using Google rather than change their habits to use chatgpt, or Microsoft’s implementations of it. Especially with windows 11 where copilot (basically Microsoft rebrand of chatgpt) is built in and you can use it from the task bar. That ease of use may steadily decrease people’s reliance on Google search, which will eventually hurt their ability to sell targeted ads.

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    The internet and technology moved on. We reached a point where google is obsolete. Google decided to cancel any product they had, that was not as successful as their ads space and now they have nothing else left. Is there even one service left that google is leading in? Maybe chromium browser and that’s it. Yet one can easily switch to Firefox right now.

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      I guess they are leading in E-Mail? Whatever that is worth I am not sure. And Youtube is pretty much toe to toe with TikTok so they have that going for them which is nice. But yeah they’ve done a pretty bad job at making themselves indispensable. If anything they‘re looking far more dispensable than ever. Still huge, but their future is rather uncertain.

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    Why does this company suck at AI even more than the other companies? Android has had machine learning for years already.

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    [REVERSAL OF FORTUNE]

    • “Please enter your public confidence score”
    • “Score not accepted, sending code to last lawsuit device”
    • “Your corporate charter cannot be found. This is an isolated, ‘one-of-a-kind occurrence’ that has never before occurred. Please try making another Business.”
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    Google’s recent search updates promised a more intuitive experience, yet users are reporting strange recommendations, like suggesting glue for pizza, highlighting AI’s growing pains in refining context and relevance in search results. This situation points to the ongoing challenge of balancing AI advancements with accuracy in practical applications. For more on AI advancements in user experience, check out ChatDansk https://chatdansk.org/.

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    I’m confused a little by the LLM’s and datasets here.

    OpenAI and Reddit have their partnership for training, so I would have assumed the pizza glue answer would have come from an OpenAI result, but Google doesn’t use OpenAI. How did Google give an answer that was clearly scraped from Reddit?

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      Google has a deal with reddit as well. https://www.reuters.com/technology/reddit-ai-content-licensing-deal-with-google-sources-say-2024-02-22/?utm_source=reddit.com

      But I don’t think it’s just an issue with the dataset. It’s the false promise of these LLMs having a fucking clue what a good search result is and what is not. They don’t. They are just good at creating text that sounds plausible. That’s not what searching for factually correct information is about though.

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        Thank you for the link. I didn’t realise that Google had a deal with Reddit as well, which explains why it was clearly indexed from Reddit.

        I agree that AI doesn’t have a clue what an accurate response is. It’s just not sentient enough to differentiate between shitposting and fact. I also totally agree that an answer given from a search result HAS to be accurate, and we’re heading down a path of a misinformation super highway if LLMs are trained on incorrect data.