Well, Nazi existed before the internet and would exist without it. They didn’t wait for the internet to enable themselves. There can’t be zero downside for having a 100% free platform, I do agree.
Yeah but Nazism spread via propaganda, which is what dogwhistling is a form of.
The Internet is the largest spreader of propaganda that humanity has ever seen, so it’s not surprising that it helped revitalize neo-nazism and fascism is general. It also served to make satire and actual radicalized behavior harder to detect. A lot of the time, 4chan boards use this “edgy satire” format to normalize the behavior (to an extent). See: the “MAP” misinformation campaign they did and how it reinforced actual pedophilia and demonized LGBT groups
Nah. Your definition of a Nazi is just anyone right of Mao. This place seems to be where the tankies went after getting banned from Reddit for encouraging violence toward people who don’t want to slob on government’s massive boot.
Lemmy seems to be more middle-left with just a few vocal extremists on both sides, actually. If anything the largest ‘extreme’ group i’ve seen here is anarchists, kind of the opposite of communists lol.
And the groups that do turn into a bunch of ‘tankies’ (slowly stares at Lemmygrad) have been defedrated across almost the entire fediverse…
I think you’re correct honestly but with Lemmygrad defederated like the exploding-heads people they surely make mainstream accounts for the sake of their lunacy being interacted with.
Maybe it’s my instance of choice but I sure do see a ton of people with authoritarian views pretending they’re just simply leftists when they’re just as unhinged as Qtards.
This instance (lemmy.ml) is one that still federates with lemmygrad, last I noticed. Even then, although the number of unhinged tankies I see here is non-zero, it still isn’t large. (In fact, it’s mainly one particular user that stands out. Y-something, with a name using a bunch of stylized high-unicode characters.)
When I’m on lemmy.world, which I think has defederated from lemmygrad, I pretty much don’t see them at all.
Frankly, I don’t think they’re bothering to try to insert themselves in lemmy.world.
here is anarchists, kind of the opposite of communists
I’m going to have to raise my hand here, because I’ve got a stake in it as an anarcho-communist.
Anarchism and communism are extremely related ideologies. The anti-authoritarian forms of communism are literally referred to as anarchist, and anarchist communists are one of the largest groups of anarchists.
And this goes back to the start of communism - the term libertarian was brought into use in the 1850s, to differentiate from the communists who thought a violence-wielding vanguard and dictatorship of the proletariat was the best path towards communism (its usage is synonymous to anarchist). The end-goal communist society as described by Marx is an anarchist society - without nation, class, rank, or religion to divide the people. But unlike Marx the libertarian/anarchist wing generally believed that this society could not be brought about through coercion.
Yeah but also it enables stuff like Nazi dogwhistling soooo lmao
Well, Nazi existed before the internet and would exist without it. They didn’t wait for the internet to enable themselves. There can’t be zero downside for having a 100% free platform, I do agree.
Yeah but Nazism spread via propaganda, which is what dogwhistling is a form of.
The Internet is the largest spreader of propaganda that humanity has ever seen, so it’s not surprising that it helped revitalize neo-nazism and fascism is general. It also served to make satire and actual radicalized behavior harder to detect. A lot of the time, 4chan boards use this “edgy satire” format to normalize the behavior (to an extent). See: the “MAP” misinformation campaign they did and how it reinforced actual pedophilia and demonized LGBT groups
Are you completely oblivious to the rise of right wing ideology the last 10-15+ years? The internet has 100% enabled it.
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Nah. Your definition of a Nazi is just anyone right of Mao. This place seems to be where the tankies went after getting banned from Reddit for encouraging violence toward people who don’t want to slob on government’s massive boot.
Are your reading your own comments before posting?
Why would I do that? They’re for you to enjoy, not me!
Lemmy seems to be more middle-left with just a few vocal extremists on both sides, actually. If anything the largest ‘extreme’ group i’ve seen here is anarchists, kind of the opposite of communists lol.
And the groups that do turn into a bunch of ‘tankies’ (slowly stares at Lemmygrad) have been defedrated across almost the entire fediverse…
I think you’re correct honestly but with Lemmygrad defederated like the exploding-heads people they surely make mainstream accounts for the sake of their lunacy being interacted with.
Maybe it’s my instance of choice but I sure do see a ton of people with authoritarian views pretending they’re just simply leftists when they’re just as unhinged as Qtards.
This instance (lemmy.ml) is one that still federates with lemmygrad, last I noticed. Even then, although the number of unhinged tankies I see here is non-zero, it still isn’t large. (In fact, it’s mainly one particular user that stands out. Y-something, with a name using a bunch of stylized high-unicode characters.)
When I’m on lemmy.world, which I think has defederated from lemmygrad, I pretty much don’t see them at all.
Frankly, I don’t think they’re bothering to try to insert themselves in lemmy.world.
I’m going to have to raise my hand here, because I’ve got a stake in it as an anarcho-communist.
Anarchism and communism are extremely related ideologies. The anti-authoritarian forms of communism are literally referred to as anarchist, and anarchist communists are one of the largest groups of anarchists.
And this goes back to the start of communism - the term libertarian was brought into use in the 1850s, to differentiate from the communists who thought a violence-wielding vanguard and dictatorship of the proletariat was the best path towards communism (its usage is synonymous to anarchist). The end-goal communist society as described by Marx is an anarchist society - without nation, class, rank, or religion to divide the people. But unlike Marx the libertarian/anarchist wing generally believed that this society could not be brought about through coercion.
“Both sides”
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Also anarchists are pretty opposed to Marxism-Leninism, not communism in general.
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