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    I agree with the sentiment that loli shit is disgusting, but the problem is that so many of you sexless prudes go in looking for shit to be offended by and start projecting onto shit that’s fine. Like the character Kusano in Sekirei is fully gross, a disgusting pedo-bait character that simply should not exist in the story, period. That shit should absolutely be rallied against.

    But then y’all bring up shit like Momo from MHA like it’s the same thing. It’s fucking not, at all. A post or near post-adolescent character wearing titillating attire in much the same way that comparable real life pop stars do is just not even remotely on the same level as actual children being depicted as sexual viable partners, especially in the context of a story like MHA where the protag is a literal high schooler expressing romantic interest in his age-appropriate peers.

    And “glorifying unhealthy relationships” is fine enough critique I suppose but one that hardly applies solely, or even primarily, to manga and anime.

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    I man how many Americans show would pass that. Doesn’t glorify unhealthy relationships covers a lotof stuff.

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    Damn. I don’t watch anime but is this that widespread within the community? lol

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    Anime:

    Hana to Alice: Satsujin Jiken

    Irozuku Sekai no Ashita Kara

    Mob Psycho 100

    Net-juu no Susume

    Ping Pong

    Yuru Camp (avoid the onsen scenes)

    Manga:

    Bonnouji

    Dad, the Beard Gorilla, and I

    Futari Ashita mo Sorenari ni

    Hoshi Mamoru Inu

    How Pathetic We Are

    I Sold My Life for 10,000 Yen per Year

    Karakai Jouzou no (Moto) Takagi-san

    Yotsubato

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    I tried watching Dragon Ball but couldn’t take that old guy sexualizing a teen. Explicitly saying he wanted to touch her boobs

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    An no fan service/no upskirt/cleavage shots.

    And no racist depictions.

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      I was going to say Knights of Sydonia, but in not sure all of those are strictly followed. At least there’s nothing overt. And a fantastic sci-fi to boot.

      Edit: started re-watching on a lark and there’s A LOT more overt fan service than I remembered. At least it passes the Bechdel Test.

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          Campfire cooking in another world and Welcome to demon school, Iruma-kun! are my main recommendations. There’s also some trash that would fit your criteria, but I wouldn’t recommend watching that (like that one slime tamer anime I can’t recall the title of). Also a dozen or so otome villainess reincarnation anime should fit your criteria, those are getting pretty popular now, though I haven’t watched any of the anime yet. Also some older stuff like Inuyasha might be up your alley, but honestly it’s been too long since I’ve seen them in their entirety, so I can’t really remember. Obviously Isekai is by far the most fan service-y theme in every possible way since most of it leans into power fantasy aspects to flatter the target demographic. In fact, if this was an actual honest question, I would recommend looking at the broader fantasy category, where there is a lot more variety and quality to be found.

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            I was mostly messing around, but thank you for the in depth write up. since we’re on the subject, what do you recommend for fantasy?

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              Frieren is the obvious recommendation, with character-driven storytelling focused on philosophical themes. It is genuinely one of the best shows I’ve seen and it’s rare that my expectations for a manga adaptation are blown out of the water so completely. Delicious in Dungeon is also excellent and has more of a focus on little details and creatures (and food, of course) with a very different approach to storytelling and a smaller scope.

              I’m a big fan of the comedy and character design in Helck, even if the production quality of the anime can’t quite match up to my other recs. The manga is definitely visually superior. The contrast between the darker aspects of the story and the comedic delivery is pretty unique as well.

              Mushishi is an episodic seinen anime focused on mythology and has some of the most beautiful background art, though it has more of a historical setting with supernatural fantasy elements. If virtual fantasy settings are allowed, then I recommend Shangri-La Frontier, which looks like Isekai at first glance, but thankfully is not. It’s also by far the most shonen anime on this list, but very entertaining.

              Those are what comes to mind, but I’m sure I’m missing some obvious picks.

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                I’ve seen most of those (and read all of helck), except for mushishi and shangri la; I’ll add them to my list!

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      I think most of my list applies

      Maybe without

      Steins;Gate because of that scene where a guy gropes a girl (though everyone rightfully calls him out for being a creep)

      Castlevania because sex scene

      Akudama Drive because Doctor is heavily sexualized

      Fullmetal Alchemist because Lust is Lust

      Cowboy Bebop because Faye is kinda sexualized

      Supercrooks because the intro (which is a bop and you should listen to it anyway)

      Redline because of one scene with boobs

      Ghost In The Shell because boobs

      Niea_7 because the very racist Indian stereotype

      Bubblegum Crisis because boobs

      Read Or Die because cleavage

      Cyberpunk Edgerunners because nudity (it’s Cyberpunk lol)

      That looks like a lot of exceptions, but it’s only 12 out of 57 shows/movies

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        To be clear; nudity is fine, just not all-the-time, male-gaze shots put in akin to commercial breaks. Like Gurren Lagan; someone told me to try that one and ye gods the amount of times it was about boobs was ridiiiiiculous.

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      Ranking of kings, erased, the promised neverland, deca-dence, fullmetal alchemist, pokemon.

      You might find some examples but the themes dont really lend to that.

      If what you really wanted was of list of animes to avoid let’s start with Basilisk.

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    There’s a lot of terrible anime, but there’s also a lot of fantastic anime. There’s a lot of anime.

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        Not at all “just like.” You don’t have to wade through 90% of literary fiction or Hollywood films in order to find a handful of titles that don’t sexualize children or are otherwise fucking gross.

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          You do have to do that to find a handful of titles that aren’t displaying blatant racism, misogyny, homophobia and/or transphobia. So, yeah, 90% of Hollywood films are in fact fucking gross.

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            How does it feel to intentionally make a dishonest false equivalence that you, I, and everyone reading knows is bullshit? I’d feel weird about it, even if I didn’t have a ton of self-respect.

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              Nah, it’s not BS. Hollywood just doesn’t glorify the same exact types of tripe, but they are just as hit and miss on moral purity. Especially if a vapid, brainless, and underdeveloped plot are considered bad. Then Hollywood might have anime beat on shit vs gold with its mountains of brainless executive-driven scripts…

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        mainstream amine maybe, but there is A LOT of anime out there.

        your comment is like saying that Hollywood only ever made super hero movies.

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        Nah… Maybe the vast majority of what you watch but there’s so many out there spanning decades.

        Astro Boy. Samurai Pizza Cats. Ergo Proxy. Ninja Scroll. Akira. Ghost in the Shell. Cowboy Bebop. Battle Angel Alita. Yowamushi Pedal.

        On and on it goes…

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        Vast majority? Eh, maybe. I watch a crazy amount of anime, and I’ve only had a few of the shows I’m interested in pull that, and typically I just don’t continue watching. The one trope that I really dislike that gets shoehorned into almost any anime is the over-infatuation of a sibling. I’m not talking incest or anything, but for some reason there’s almost always a character who is obsessed with their sister/brother, and it weirds me out. Not enough to stop watching if the anime is otherwise good, but definitely enough to stop watching if the anime is just soso.

        Now, oversexualization of adult characters? That’s almost unavoidable. I tend to just ignore it, until I show an anime to someone who hasn’t seen anime before and then I’m hyper aware of it. That’s why when introducing people to anime I usually pick Death Note or Fullmetal Alchemist. These anime have a good dose of the anime goofiness, but very little fanservice, almost none.