Some Tesla engineers secretly started designing a Cybertruck alternative because they ‘hated’ it::“They were like, ‘You can’t be serious.’ They didn’t want to have anything to do with it,” Franz von Holzhausen said, according to Walter Isaacson.
Cyber truck looks absolutely shit. The only thing it had going for itself was that it would have been the very first fully electric pick up truck - when it was first announced.
After more than 5 years Tesla is nowhere close to mass producing the ugly while Ford stole the thunder with announcing and launching the F150 Lightning. If I was in market for an EV pick up, I’d no longer consider Tesla cyber truck, let alone the Fascist ElMo’s shenanigans.
The “micron precision” memo that leaked tells me they’re nowhere close to mass production. At my old job, tolerances were pretty much set when we finished a design for a large chemical unit operation – which was typically built within two years. I would expect mass production of something like a car to not to take too much longer.
I see what you did there, stealing thunder with the Lightning.
And yes, Ford’s approach is smart, cheaper, and more utilitarian. Besides, it doesn’t stand out like a smashed thumb in a splint.
Rivian also has some decent designs. I know that Ford has a stake in the company, but it’s only holding 12%, so I don’t know that they have much say in what goes on over there.
It hasn’t even been 4 years
Gotta cut everyone some slack when estimating time since the pandemic. 3 years was 10 years ago.
I’m 46. As far as I’m concerned, the 90s was last week.
You’re right on that one, the struggle is real. Comes up in conversation pretty often.
Any day now, the cyber truck will come whizzing down the hyperloop with its sub 10 micron build tolerance and tornado proof glass, fully autonomously driving of course. Any day now.
I really want to see one after it’s hit by a heavy hail storm.
hit by a heavy hail storm.
…or even a champagne bottle!
Obviously, it will have front-mounted flamethrowers.
The OG cybertruck reminds me of Lara Croft in the OG Tomb Raider.
If you know you know, looks like a shitty prototype.
It’s looks like a little kid was drawing a house and halfway said, fuck it, it’s a car and put wheels on it.
There’s no way in hell this shit doesn’t completely flop, right? Like, who in their right mind would buy this garbage aside from techbros riding Elon’s pole?
There’s a ton of goobers that want it, but very few are actually going to be able to afford it. It’s going to be 80k plus
If it weren’t for Musk standing to make a profit from it and Tesla’s history of questionable design decisions and quality issues, I’d potentially be interested in one. I like how it looks (although my aesthetic choices are certainly not everyone’s cup of tea,) and the specs are pretty impressive if they manage to deliver on them.
There’s a lot of hunger out there for more EV trucks, musk fanboys will gobble up anything he is involved in, and lots of people make questionable vehicle purchases, I think it will sadly sell just fine.
I predict it will flop harder than the Segway.
Wait, should I stop expecting the Segway to finally become the next big thing??
There are plenty of people not in their right minds who have the money (or access to financing) and questionable taste to go buy the thing as soon as it’s available.
It will be a moderate success, I suspect. Owing more to the massive demand for electric vehicles than the cyber truck’s particular design.
No chance it will outsell the f150 lightning, except possibly if Ford can’t build enough to meet demand.
Y’know, I wanted one until I learned anything about Tesla as a company or about Elon, and then I decided it’s vaporware and will probably never be delivered for reasons that are stupid. Looking from the outside but with experience shipping big software releases, this smells a lot like what you get when you think of QC not as an engineering discipline, but as a cost to be minimized.
So both the engineers and everyone in the comments is just saying they hate/like the look of it? That’s the last important part. As I understand it, the Cybertruck is never going to be allowed to the roads in Europe because of how unsafe it is. That’s what people should be interested in. Looks can be pleasing to some and ugly to others and that’s ok.
I’ve been wondering about its crumple zones. So… does it not have any ?
the bodies of children it’s software won’t detect will have plenty of crumple zones, don’t see what’s the issue
The other car is the crumple zone.
I wonder how much the other car’s crumple zone affects the performance of your own. I wouldn’t be surprised if one car not having one would degrade the performance of the one that does.
In which case, these cars actually become a public safety risk.
the thing is a giant slab of angled metal, when it crashes into things my guess is the hood will slide backwards and “dissect” entire people.
That’s a threat with most vehicles and is easily engineered for. Aside from visibility problems, we can’t know what real safety issues it might have until we get crash test data.
How unsafe is it? I’ve not seen any crash test results.
Afaik they haven’t done any crash testing yet, or haven’t released the results. The EU tends not to allow cars with sharp, angular front ends. Iirc that’s why the latest Camaro can’t be sold in swathes of Europe.
Why are people so convinced that the Cybertruck won’t be safe? Of all the bad things we can say about Tesla, it’s a fact that they’re quite safe vehicles. I see no reason why the company would suddenly build a vehicle that is so unsafe it cannot be sold in Europe. Some comments in this thread say it doesn’t have any crumple zones. How strong do you think 3mm stainless steel is? The strength of every vehicle comes from its frame, not from its body panels. Same thing with the Cybertruck.
Drive one from California to Texas and see where the body panels pop off.
Barstow.
Am I the only person besides Elon who likes the cybertruck? I hate agreeing with that idiot on anything, but I think the cybertruck looks cool.
Yes. It looks stupid.
It looks like a cheap, “futuristic” car that would be in a vintage sci-fi movie.
I mean, there is nothing else on the road that looks like it for better or worse
I think it looks okay but it’s just way too big
The concept version scratched an itch I’ve had about seeing cyberpunk influence in modern car design really well. The more recent images remind me that it’s indeed a soulless corpo who would create a cyberpunk hell scape in a heartbeat if it could.
It’s this. I want a Tron themed EV and I want it to not look stupid driving around suburbia.
And I’m afraid that those two things are mutually exclusive. Part of the cyberpunk aesthetic is the lack of soccer moms and hotdog stands.
Yep.
I think it’s mostly that the roof comes to a point. If it had a flat roof it’d look a lot better.
I love it too. It’s completely ridiculous and ugly in a way that appeals to me.
I’m indifferent to it, but the amount of people who give a shit is hilarious to me. If it goes 500+ miles, requires no paint and is cheaper than other electric trucks, it’s a win in my book. So weird how people use vehicles as an extension of who they are. It’s a fucking truck. Have you seen the competition? Tundras, F150, Sierra, and Silverado all look like ass.
They do all look like utter shit. But the cybertruck looks like single-digit iq shit, the other ones are at least closer to the center of the bell curve, even if they have tribal tattoos, goatees, and listen to the home depot guitar riff on repeat.
If it goes 500+ miles, requires no paint and is cheaper than other electric trucks, it’s a win in my book
I also would think it’s a win if it flies, turned water into wine, and had an automatic blowjob machine installed, which is about as likely to be true as the rest of this shit.
Hasn’t Tesla’s design language always been about not rocking the boat aesthetically? The model S looks nice, but except for the lack of a grille it kinda just looks like any other car. You could make an EV look pretty weird as you don’t really need an engine compartment, but it’s harder to sell someone on both an exotic drivetrain and an exotic appearance. This think looks like it fell out of blade runner…
It also doesn’t look very aerodynamic. I have some concerns about range, especially considering that Tesla doesn’t exactly have the best record of honesty in that particular area.
I guess we’ll see how it sells. Eventually.
This thing looks like it fell out of the 1997 Blade Runner computer game if Westwood had decided to go with polygonal 3D graphics instead of pre-rendered FMV and voxel 3D.
This think looks like it fell out of blade runner…
The entire reason I was ever potentially interested in the cybertruck was how fuckin weird it looks.
Specifically this take from another poster
This thing looks like it fell out of the 1997 Blade Runner computer game if Westwood had decided to go with polygonal 3D graphics
I love that shit.
It looks weird but no worse than any other truck. Anyone that tells you an F150 is aesthetically pleasing is full of shit.
Keep those designs in your back pocket. Teslas gonna need something to replace the Cybertruck with after it flops and investors finally oust Elon.
The sales of the Model Y are more than making up for any dud Tesla puts out right now.
Now this I want to see. What did the engineers working on their own side project come up with?
i’m really excited for this isaacson bio; i loved his steve jobs one, but i read that in high school, bright eyed and wanting to go into tech. lol.
Tesla is developing a skunkworks. Maybe something good will come out of this.
Read this as ‘cyberduck’ at first and I was like, what’s wrong with my favorite FTP client? Why do they hate it?
