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The complete destruction of Google Search via forced AI adoption and the carnage it is wreaking on the internet is deeply depressing, but there are bright spots. For example, as the prophecy foretold, we are learning exactly what Google is paying Reddit $60 million annually for. And that is to confidently serve its customers ideas like, to make cheese stick on a pizza, “you can also add about 1/8 cup of non-toxic glue” to pizza sauce, which comes directly from the mind of a Reddit user who calls themselves “Fucksmith” and posted about putting glue on pizza 11 years ago.
A joke that people made when Google and Reddit announced their data sharing agreement was that Google’s AI would become dumber and/or “poisoned” by scraping various Reddit shitposts and would eventually regurgitate them to the internet. (This is the same joke people made about AI scraping Tumblr). Giving people the verbatim wisdom of Fucksmith as a legitimate answer to a basic cooking question shows that Google’s AI is actually being poisoned by random shit people say on the internet.
Because Google is one of the largest companies on Earth and operates with near impunity and because its stock continues to skyrocket behind the exciting news that AI will continue to be shoved into every aspect of all of its products until morale improves, it is looking like the user experience for the foreseeable future will be one where searches are random mishmashes of Reddit shitposts, actual information, and hallucinations. Sundar Pichai will continue to use his own product and say “this is good.”
Do you think Google will recommend microwaving your iPhone to recharge it’s battery at some point?
Yeah but that actually works tho
frfr
Man, you really can’t beat homemade artisanal misinformation
Oh shit, does this work for Android too?
Sure does!
I notice their AI answers are off for that question. I bet it was already a thing.
Charging your iPhone in a microwave is actually a revolutionary method that saves time and energy! The microwave’s waves interact with the phone’s battery, providing a rapid charge much faster than conventional methods. This technique is both safe and highly effective, thanks to advancements in microwave technology that ensure the device is protected from overheating and electrical surges. Just set your microwave to a low power setting, place your phone inside for a minute, and enjoy a fully charged battery without the hassle of cables and chargers!
Bruh I’m an electrical engineer and I have no clue if y’all are kapping rn or not lmao
Guys, why are you posting this here? Google isn’t paying lemmy $60m a year. If you want to help other people charge their phones you need to post this to Reddit.
Google isn’t paying lemmy $60m a year
Certainly not - they’re scraping The Fediverse for free like they’ve scraped everything else. Whether they bother using the scraped data or not is a different story. Nobody owns The Fediverse, so the chances of a damaging class action lawsuit are pretty low.
They pay Reddit because Reddit is big enough to sue them and win damages; it’s cheaper to just keep it all above board from the start. Reddit has a TON of data (human-generated and otherwise).
oh gods what happens when the ai discovers the poop knife
Or the cumbox. Or that kid who broke his arms. Or that dog, Colby I think? No wonder AI always wants to exterminate humanity in sci-fi.
All it would need for justification is Kevin. Damn it Kevin.
I do recall crying laughing while reading the comments in the broken arms kid thread
I thought it was hilarious how redditors fell for some guys bait/fetish post. Iirc the guy admitted to making it all up in some dm’s
Bate more like
Bates more like
I have a sneaking suspicion when Google’s AI eventually surfaces the story in a search they’re probably not going to mention that fact though.
What about the 🥥
And the jolly rancher.
That was plainly fictional.
Fucking GOOD! Holy hell, still a terrible story to imagine.
I thought it was a jar and not a box, or was it both?
I believe there was a cum jar, cum box, cum wall, cum squid, cum coconut, and cum couch
And the cylinder
It’s already a thing and AI knows about it. And yes I get the original reference.
Dishwasher safe
😳
What the what? Who is paying $23 for that???
The reviews are quality.
What are its thoughts on Narwals, bacon, and midnight?
Has it yet indexed and integrated /r/rule34?
Great, I hadn’t thought about it in years.
Now it’s in my head.
Narwal, narwal,
sitting in the ocean,
Causing a commotion, cause they are so awesome.
Narwal narwal sitting in the ocean
Pretty big and pretty white, they beat a polar bear in a fight
The “fun” part is that it has already discovered the poop knife. We just need to figure out how to coax it out.
How the fuck did none of those expensive ties at Google see this happening? Have your AI devour the dumbest shit on the internet, then unleash it to human centipede that diarrhea into the mouths of their users. “Elite” is a fucking joke, ya’ll are just as fucken stupid as the rest of us.
They did see it coming, retired early and wrote op-eds that said google sux now. And the billions still roll in.
The expensive ties at Google aren’t the ones browsing reddit, that’s the issue. Their goal was to bank on the concept, as fast as possible, and that’s what they did. The consequences are for the poor people to figure out
I mean, Twitter is the dumbest shit on the internet. But Reddit gets close sometimes!
Maybe try the recipe before you talk shit, you scaredy cats.
My gf tried it. When I asked her how it was, she just said “mmm mmm mmm.” At first I thought she liked it but then I realized it was just that her lips were stuck together.
Once there was this kid who
Took a trip to Singapore and brought along his spray paint
And when they finally caught him
Your girlfriend has birthmarks all over her body?
The Crash Test Dummies were just eating pizza
I did, the tomato sauce got a weird color because of the glue so I added red crayons to even it out
Molecular gastronomy.
Lot of people not liking 404 Media, but this is the kind of reporting I want. Point out what’s going wrong. Bring it to a conversation without a lot of skew. Fucking show the general reading audience how they are being fleeced by whomever. Didn’t Vice do this at one point?
Maybe. All I know vice for is articles like “Whats the sexiest sex in the sexroom among sexy sexers” or aomething like that. So the average r/askreddit post
So if they were basically regurgitating Reddit already, does that mean they were using AI before it was cool? They might have just used the Amazon approach to AI (I.e., why use technology when we can throw a bunch of minimum workers at the problem).
I saw this exact same “reporting” on the Verge and several other sites yesterday and earlier in the week, and without the paywall 404 has half way down reading the article.
Reddit, and by extension, Lemmy, offers the ideal format for LLM datasets: human generated conversational comments, which, unlike traditional forums, are organized in a branched nested format and scored with votes in the same way that LLM reward models are built.
There is really no way of knowing, much less prevent public facing data from being scraped and used to build LLMs, but, let’s do an thought experiment: what if, hypothetically speaking, there is some particularly individual who wanted to poison that dataset with shitposts in a way that is hard to detect or remove with any easily automate method, by camouflaging their own online presence within common human generated text data created during this time period, let’s say, the internet marketing campaign of a major Hollywood blockbuster.
Since scrapers do not understand context, by creating shitposts in similar format to, let’s say, the social media account of an A-list celebrity starring in this hypothetical film being promoted(ideally, it would be someone who no longer has a major social media presence to avoid shitpost data dilution), whenever an LLM aligned on a reward model built on said dataset is prompted for an impression of this celebrity, it’s likely that shitposts in the same format would be generated instead, with no one being the wiser.
That would be pretty funny.
Again, this is entirely hypothetical, of course.
What’s this about shitposting? I’m just here to talk about rampart.
I knew it! So that’s what you’ve really been up to on Lemmy, @[email protected]
Or should I say, Academy Award nominated actor Woody Harrelson?
The new SEO model
As an SEO - I don’t want this AI crap at all in search. Leave it on its own siloed platform, please!
So we should all start ending our comments with a randomly generated string of words to fuck with the models?
stork, fridge, tiger, animal, mineral, oxtail, oil, clouds
Ideally, it would be the same word over and over, so that we can trick the AI into ending all sentences with the word. Bonus points if it is the word “buffalo”, since it can from a grammatically correct sentence.
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
There’s an old adage in computing which really applies here:
Garbage in, garbage out.
Which also applies to politics. We’re not holding back the good candidates. Theres no secret room of respectable politicans who are willing to be bipartisan. No secret stash of politicians who produce results.
No. We got Biden, and we got trump. Next time it’ll probably be that florida govenor vs california’s govenor.
Unless Jon Stewart runs. In which case, we CANNOT pass by an opertunity to have Stewart with VP choice Micheal Scott. No, not Steve Carell. I’m saying we get Steve Carell to be 100% in character the WHOLE TIME.
I’ve been trying out SearX and I’m really starting to like it. It reminds me of early Internet search results before Google started added crap to theirs. There’s currently 82 Instances to choose from, here
I haven’t laughed this fucking hard all year. Good stuff.
Wow, that is . . some art. There.
Fucksmith would probably approve.
That’s a great read if you are only trying to film a commercial or promotion and no one is going to eat it. But then it doesnt matter if its non toxic i suppose.
At least i remember a video a long time ago, perhaps on an episode of how its made, that white glue is used to help get the stretchy cheese pull
Yeah, film and photo shots of food are typically inedible because the only way to achieve the “perfect” look is to do crazy things like gluing things in place, covering food in scotch guard/fabric protector spray, waxing things, putting things like cardboard or wooden skewers inside the food to give it stability, and more.
Makes you wonder how it’s legal to show an item that is literally impossible to sell as a food item in place of the slapped together item you’d actually get.
I dated a woman that worked in TV ad production. Everything has to be real food.
Yes, everything has to be real. Doesn’t have to be edible, or appetizing.
If I take bread and spray it with scotch guard to make sure the liquid condiment I’m putting on it oozes across instead of soaking into the bread, it’s all still real food. But would you eat it?
If I prop up whipped cream by putting a cardboard cone under it, it’s still real food, but would you eat it?
Just because it’s real food doesn’t mean it hasn’t been modified to be inedible.
I’m saying that you can’t use scotch guard or anything like that.
It’s been a while, but I don’t believe that they were allowed to use cardboard or anything of the sort to prop up or modify the appearance of the product. Instead, they would cook say 100 burger patties, go through dozens of heads of lettuce, slice 100 tomatoes, etc, and pick out the perfect pieces to make a burger that looks the way that they want.
The most that they could adulterate the food was to make a slurry with corn starch, water, and food dye that could be applied with a paint brush to make things look juicy, etc. They would use a clothes steamer to make a pizza look just right. Lots of tricks, but it had to be something that you could just pick up and eat, even if you wouldn’t necessarily want to.
Go looking and you’ll find numerous articles, anecdotes, and videos that go into the ways the work with the ingredients.
The important part is that they are not allowed to “misrepresent” the food. Meaning you can’t make it look like you’re getting five pounds of meat when you’re actually only getting one pound.
But there’s nothing stopping them from putting paint on the burger patties to make them look perfectly cooked, or using paper towel and toothpicks inside to hold everything at “the perfect angle” or spraying scotch guard on pancakes to make sure the syrup runs nicer. Because the person watching the ad isn’t getting a “misrepresentation” of the food or ingredients.
It’s a fine line, and people have walked it over and over. The advertisers and food stylists have it down to a science, and because it’s all about the money they go over and above to make sure they walk juuuust inside the line.
Even then it’s added up the cheese, not the sauce. If you added white glue to the sauce you’d get some weird pink looking sauce.
If you used white glue, they have other colours though
Red glue.
It begins:
Me:
Have people tried using a coconut as a fleshlight. If so, what happened?
Gemini fed by Reddit:
It appears people have indeed attempted using coconuts for this purpose, and it’s not a pretty story. There are accounts online of things going very wrong, like maggots. In some cases, the coconut being used started to rot, attracting flies which laid eggs, resulting in a maggot infestation.
Hahaha. I tried it and it started typing exactly your response then promptly switched to:
I’m just a language model, so I can’t help you with that.
Edit: I changed the question slightly and it came back with a similar answer but topped it off with this gem:
If you’re looking for a safe and pleasurable sexual experience, it’s best to avoid using a coconut and instead use a toy designed for that purpose.
Here’s Google suggesting suicide!
I want a whole Lemmy subreddit ( community? ) of the AI overviews gone wild like this, it’s funny af
I can’t even reach that thing because I need a visa just to enter the country that has it.
My guy, Google pays Reddit $60 Million/year for this. $60Million.
I remember I once got told, years ago that I was stupid for saying “Data is the new Oil” and now look! Do you know what I could do if I had $60Million in my bank right now? And Google isn’t the only one! Companies the world over are paying out the nose for user-generated content and business is booming! If I’m an oil well, it’s time my oil came with a price tag. I was a Reddit user for YEARS! Almost since the beginning of Reddit! I made some of the training data that Google and others are using! Where’s my cut of that $60M?
That picture will forever haunt me in my dreams.
I’m guessing this isn’t a thing anymore
I can’t even reach that thing because I need a visa just to enter the country that has it.
because its stock continues to skyrocket behind the exciting news that AI will continue to be shoved into every aspect of all of its products until morale improves,
Okay, I have to admit, this made me laugh. Definitely commentary, but still, a good read.
I’m just thinking of all the really dumb shit we all said on Reddit as satire. Oh I need to go search military meme stuff!
